{"id":50145,"date":"2021-01-20T01:15:00","date_gmt":"2021-01-20T01:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/aee\/aee-1508-first-lady-second-gentleman-conversation-about-titles\/"},"modified":"2021-11-30T23:25:53","modified_gmt":"2021-11-30T23:25:53","slug":"aee-1508-first-lady-second-gentleman-conversation-about-titles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.allearsenglish.com\/aee-1508-first-lady-second-gentleman-conversation-about-titles\/","title":{"rendered":"AEE 1508: First Lady? Second Gentleman? Should Titles Evolve Over Time?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We are in unprecedented times and there\u2019s a lot of excitement surrounding it. <\/p>\n<p>The US is about to welcome the first female First Lady, and so there\u2019s a lot of thought and emotion behind that.<\/p>\n<p>This has also brought up the question of titles, as this will also mean that the US will have the first husband of a presidential candidate in the White House. <\/p>\n<p>So today we look at these events and the idea of titles, and if they still apply in this new and exciting moment in history. <\/p>\n<h3><strong>An Exciting Twist of Events<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>So we are on the brink of a new day in the US! <\/p>\n<p>The country is about to welcome our first female VP, Kamala Harris\u2014this is fantastic news for so many people! <\/p>\n<p>There is a lot of excitement around this, as this is the highest elected office that a woman has ever held. <\/p>\n<p>There is a lot of conversation around this, as you can imagine. <\/p>\n<p>One interesting thing in this conversation is about titles, and it\u2019s something that has never come about before.<\/p>\n<p>The situation is that normally the spouse of the President is called the First Lady, and the VP\u2019s spouse, is the Second Lady. <\/p>\n<p>Now we have Douglas Emhoff, who will be the spouse to the Vice President\u2014but for the first time in history it is a man in this position. <\/p>\n<p>Though this doesn\u2019t take away from the excitement, it does create an interesting conversation of sorts.<\/p>\n<p>There is an article about this\u2013this is about language and how it evolves over time. <\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ll take a look at this article, but you can see why this is a topic of conversation that we have never encountered before. <\/p>\n<p>For a bit of background, we have discussed first ladies and a documentary that we watched about this. <\/p>\n<p>Check out episode  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.allearsenglish.com\/aee-1487-talk-about-important-moments-history-english\/\">How To Talk About Important Moments In History In English<\/a><\/p>\n<p>So this isn\u2019t a new topic, but the idea of a first spouse as a male is a part of the new excitement. <\/p>\n<div style=\"height:22px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"height:74px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"height:72px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<h3><strong>An Article For Reference<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p> The article that we referenced is definitely worth checking out because it has some interesting points to think about and discuss. <\/p>\n<p>The article is \u201cShould we quit saying \u2018First Lady\u2019? Doug Emhoff could help with that\u201d by Caroline Kitchener on November 12. <\/p>\n<p>You can link to it at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thelily.com\/should-we-quit-saying-first-lady-doug-emhoff-could-help-with-that\/?tid=more_from_lily\">Should We Quit Saying First Lady? Doug Emhoff Could Help With That <\/a> <\/p>\n<p>This article is definitely worth checking out, though you may have opinions of your own as we of course do. <\/p>\n<p>People in the article think these titles are silly, and that they are outdated. <\/p>\n<p>If you look at it, the role of First Ladies has been to plan parties or to have a cause that they support when in the White House. <\/p>\n<p>Though there may be certain aspects of that which may still be in place, the reality is that there is often much more to the role. <\/p>\n<p>In modern days, the First Lady has become a bit of an icon or even a celebrity. <\/p>\n<p>They are often a beloved and very famous part of modern culture, and so they go above and beyond what they were in the past. <\/p>\n<p>So what do you do with the title for Doug Emhoff?<\/p>\n<p> Is it perhaps Second Gentleman? <\/p>\n<p>This is something that will be looked at and figured out, but many feel the same way as those in the article\u2014that this is a very antiquated title and position or role.<\/p>\n<p>Jill Biden will keep working as a teacher even though she will be the First Lady, so that\u2019s a sign of the times. <\/p>\n<p>The article mentions that Lincoln\u2019s wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, used Mrs. President and Jackie O used Mrs. Kennedy. <\/p>\n<p>So there is a history of title changes, and this should be no different even though it\u2019s a husband rather than a wife. <\/p>\n<p>Apparently other countries don\u2019t have this sort of thing, as there aren\u2019t really titles used.<\/p>\n<p>In most cases, they just use the person\u2019s name, so basically in that case it would be Dr. Biden or Mr. Emhoff. <\/p>\n<p>Titles may be antiquated, and so this article brings up a lot of good points. <\/p>\n<div style=\"height:21px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<h3><strong>Is This A Trend Of The Future?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p> Will titles go away in the White House moving forward? <\/p>\n<p>Will titles not really matter as much overall? <\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of thoughts on this, even in a professional work setting where titles don\u2019t seem to really matter much anymore. <\/p>\n<p>There was an interesting Tweet that talked about the idea of titles going away that is worth checking out and thinking through. <\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>J<em>ill Filipovic @JillFilipovic \u201cI am all for retiring stupid terms like \u201cFirst Lady\u201d and \u201cSecond Lady\u201d but I am also going to be annoyed if we only do it because suddenly a man is in the role and it would be demeaning to call him the \u201cSecond Gentleman.\u201d <\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Maybe the names won\u2019t change all at once, but it happens slowly over time. <\/p>\n<p>Does this matter in the long run or do people even really think that much about titles overall anymore? <\/p>\n<p>This current moment in history has become a springboard towards thinking through what the future may hold. <\/p>\n<p>It may be time to take a look at something like titles to decide if this and other issues like it are really that important anymore. <\/p>\n<p>None of this takes away from this exciting moment in history, and it\u2019s time to feel positive about what lies ahead! <\/p>\n<div style=\"height:18px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<h3><strong>Takeaway<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>This is undoubtedly an important topic, and it\u2019s so timely within the US right now. <\/p>\n<p>This is good for conversation with Americans and this is powerful culture and language to understand and use. <\/p>\n<p>This is a pivotal time within the US, and therefore this is an important current event to stay tuned into. <\/p>\n<p>Language changes over time, and this is a perfect example of that. <\/p>\n<p>It would be interesting to hear how spouses are addressed or titled in your country\u2014we\u2019d love to hear from you about that! <\/p>\n<div style=\"height:18px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<p><strong>If you have any questions, please leave them below in the comments section. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>We\u2019ll get back to you as soon as we can.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style=\"height:66px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are in unprecedented times and there\u2019s a lot of excitement surrounding it. 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